hey all

here are the results from the scrim held 10.17.15

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THE MAPS AND GAME TYPES:

WOLFCREEK WINTER                AS             RE

XS VIADUCT R2                           AS             SD

MP UO CARNAGIE                      AS            LTS

QUARNTINE                                AS             SD    ( NOT PLAYED )

WEARDALE                                AS             RE    ( NOT PLAYED )


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THE TEAMS:

old age    ( forsaken to start )                       sgt arkie hicks      ( warlords to start )

no saint                                                      punisher

audy murphy                                               wolsy

rhino                                                           sgt 9th texas

redrock                                                      pistazien

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THE SCORES:

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WOLFCREEK:                        6                                  2     ( old's team wins the map )

old              8 / 5                                         hicks            8 / 6

saint           37 / 4 *                                     punisher        11 / 4

audy          8 / 6 / 1 TD                                wolsy            16 / 7 *

rhino          25 / 4 / 1 TK                              texas             4 / 8

redrock       11 / 5                                        pistazien       12 / 6


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VIADUCT:                         6                            5     ( old's team wins the map )

old           10 / 10                                        hicks           0 / 10 / 1 TK

saint         13 / 7 *                                       punisher      1 / 9 / 1 TD

audy         10 / 9 / 1 TK                               wolsy           10 / 8 *

rhino         5 / 8                                          texas             1 / 9

redrock       12 / 7 / 1 TD                             pistazien        9 / 8

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CARNAGIE:                     9                           7   ( old's team wins the map )

old            18 / 6                                          hicks            2 / 5

saint         21 / 3                                          punisher        11 / 6

audy         15 / 5                                          wolsy           24 / 4 *

rhino          4 / 8                                           texas            4 / 7

redrock      24 / 4 *                                       pistazien       10 / 7


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OLD'S TEAM WINS THE MATCH 3 MAPS TO 0 MAPS


# / # = kills / deaths

TK = team kill

TD = team death

* = top score for the map

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TEAM KILLERS:

old age          0 TK / 0 TD                                 hicks      1 TK / 0 TD

no saint         0 TK / 0 TD                                 punisher  0 TK / 1 TD

audy murphy   1 TK / 1 TD                                wolsy      0 TK / 0 TD

rhino               1 TK / 0 TD                                texas       0 TK / 0 TD

redrock            0 TK / 1 TD                               pistazien   0 TK / 0 TD

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THE VIDEO:

there was a couple bashes that may have got caught when i was recording the match.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYNa-4kIqNs

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good games see you all in the next scrim in 3 weeks

old

old's team are prob hacking, FS Sarge, you need to do some recording on them lol.

I m still mad ya Audy for that bash. lol

Crap Games for me lol

I did well and am pleased, but I wish you all would stick around and play all the maps, regardless of the "winner" status (more than 2/3 of you left after Old's team "won" the match by taking the first 3 maps)--I play for the competition and teamwork, not the wins and losses columns, and I felt cheated out of 2 more good maps under such conditions.

Well said Red....

I think if we sign up 3 or 5, we should play the full rotation.  Someone has taken the time to select the maps and someone put them on the server, the least we can do is play them all.  I like playing them all, even if I am getting my hat handed to me.  I may not be saying pleasant things by then, but its all part of the game.  I'm not like Red though, I do care about winning and losing, at least the scrims.  Its trying to do the best with the hand you dealt, just hope you have enough time to figure out what works before the map is over.

it will be this next weekend before i post the next scrim that will follow 2 weeks after that.

if you have any suggestions for maps to play then get them in by friday evening 10 / 23 / 15.

it will be a 3 map scrim .

old

Wait....does that mean there's a scrim on the 24th???

no it will be november 7th

Im in for that one!!!

I was going to post a comment about playing the full complement of maps saying that I have no problem with that but I would like to mix up the teams a bit as I feel we have the same groups for nearly every scrim.  So I wanted to check my facts before I posted and here is what I found for scrims this year:

We generally have two basic teams, I'll call them Team A and Team B.  For people that have played at least 5 scrims this year, the team compositions are the following based on the highest percentage with that team.

Team A
OLD           95% of the time on this team...
RED           94%
SAINT       89%
SCORP      89%
DRAGON  80%
AUDY        73%

Team B
WOLSY     100%
PUN           100%
TEX            93%
THOMAS   91%
PIST           88%
RHINO       75%
ARKIE        75%

So generally speaking, 3/4ths of the time these are the teams we play. Now I certainly don't want to detract from all the work OLD puts in setting up the scrip, managing, recording and posting results to the forum. He does a tremendous job!

Thats interesting.  I don't think you can break teams down by the monthly ranking because that doesn't really tell you how a person plays.  We can be basically broken down into aggressive and cautious categories, and there are a mix of each on the teams.  Perhaps when it come to picking teams and using captains, have first 1 pick 1 then second pick 2 then 1, 1 rest of way, and have whoever the captains are be of somewhat same skill set.  I don't know if this is any help or me just rambling......

i have tried to make up the teams by making sure that each team has a balance of top tier players...


audy / pistazien / no saint / fs sarge / punisher / wolsy  

( i am not trying to say these people are better that others it is just they are the better players from our server that take part in the scrims. )

are split up between the 2 teams each week but not all of them always take part so i do the best i can to make the teams even with those that are playing that week.

the remaining people are split up by

do they hang back   /  do they run and gun   / ect  

spliting those people up between the 2 teams.

i have tried having 2 team captains pick their teams

coin toss then winner picks 1st out of the top tier people

once the top tiers are chosen then the remaining people chosen one picks then the other picks 2 then the other picks again.

i know pistazien thinks the teams are the same week in week out and i have tried to make up the teams fairly so that each team has a a couple of the top tier players on each team and the same for the remaining people playing that week.

in the past i have tried several different approaches to setting up teams, always with the intent that the teams be balanced for skill and player compatability and numbers.

one would think that having the same team mates would make for better team play since you have played with your team mates in weeks past you would be more able to predict what they are going to do and have better stratagy on the maps knowing what your team mates would be doing / or how they would play the maps.

i have even tried to make it so that if you played in a scrim one week that you knew your team would be the same for the next match a couple weeks later. i  have also gone by the stats from the web site stats page to assign teams.

it is hard to set up teams when not all that play in a match have signed up prior to the start of the match rather they show up wanting to play so i have to adjust the teams at the last minute to allow those late arrivals to play as well. so some times a person may have been assigned to team 1 but because i needed to make an adjustment at the last minute they have to be put on team 2 to try and keep the teams balanced.

the only way i could eliminate the need for last minute team assignment adjustments would be to NOT ALLOW anyone who did not sign up in advance to play, but that would keep several people from playing that weeks match and make the teams more like 3 on 3 instead of 5 on 5 or what ever the numbers would be for that week.

i want as many that want to play be able to play so i make the adjustments and that moves people from one team to another week to week.

i have been trying to figure out another way to set up the teams and think i have came up with one that we will try in the next scrim but it requires ALL that take part to have signed up in the forums prior to the match. if you do not sign up you do not play. but i will leave that up to you all.

see forum topic: scrim poll.  you have until friday november 6th 2015 to vote.

old

I feel we might be over thinking this... If we look at kill ratio, aggressive vs camper, balance pairs, knowledge of the maps, those who communicate with their teammates and who doesn't, etc. in an attempt of creating balanced teams, our scrim results shows that doesn't work.  Look at our last scrim, for example.  A few scrims back, I thought the team I was on would get bitch slapped, instead we won the first two maps and the scrim.

For a suggestion, just before the scrim, let Old pick a pair of Captains (different each scrim) and let them go into a separate Vent channel and pick teams one player at a time without outside intervention.  The team that gets 2nd pick gets the last two players.  Old can post a note on Vent that if another late player joins, get on "xxxx" Team.

If we have a 5-map rotation and one team is dominating, then during the break, mix up the teams.  The scrim is already decided, just mix it up and have fun for the last 2 maps!!!